Many come to a misconception that old anime is equivalent to a ragged and worn out car – little did they know, it’s actually akin to a classic roadster, i.e. innovative and original.
(I hope I know what I'm talking about...) What I like about older animes is that they use the older way of animation, which I'm sure is hand drawn or something. I think most anime nowadays use digital animation, which look nice, but for some reason the older style is more appealing to me. Like Gundam Seed compared to like Gundam Wing, the detail on the MSs in GW just look more appealing to me. Though I do like animes getting rereleased on BDs and becoming clearer (like Tenchi Muyo) I would like some harem anime about now, but most today are just based off of games or some other media, making them potentially high to be mediocre... (which most have become...) I have yet to watch Aria and I still want to! Also rest in peace (I'm pretty sure a voice actor from that show just died, I think she voiced a major character too...)
... my girlfriend has been begging me for Slam Dunk in proper quality, and I personally would love to see Dr. Slump and Ranma and GTO getting quality new releases. Oh, and ofcourse some of the classic anime that has been shown in the west in the past, but somehow has never been released properly. Like Samurai Pizza Cats and that Peter Pan anime and The Wizard of Oz. All brilliant brilliant shows.
the best animes are the ones in the 80's! the drawing was nice, the stories were original and you could feel the animators soul were in the anime, but now (bleach, naruto, onepeace, etc) you could see that the digital anime has no soul to it, like it is not an art, the old anime was something like an art but now it is like an animation program/pixels/flash movies. fist of the north star, akira, ninja scroll, golgo 13 the professional, and many many more!! the 80's were the golden age of anime. am not saying nowadays anime is all bad but its much worse than before!! the reason is because it is cheaper to make digital anime and faster! they sacrificed quality for quantity and cost savings. however i still liked some, like basiliks or the count of monte cristo: gunkustua or vampire d bloodless etc. does anyone know good animes in the 80's to watch? what i like is are things similar to these: fist of the north star golgo 13 ninja scroll valley of the wind ghost in the shell 1 showdow skills detonator orgun etc
I'm glad somebody else thinks so. And Im sure the problem we are discussing has another side to it. But, just to add my two cents, a lot of these studios these days are putting out this bubble gum baby trash. None of these animes that they bring across the water now-a-days have any soul. They're just either soap opera type bull or some baby-power ranger type stuff. I remember when I could show an anime movie to some one who didnt watch the genre and they could take it as a good watching movie every now and then. You cant do that with the stuff we're offered today. It's all too...I dunno...silly? It's too somethin, I don't know the word to describe it. It's almost like watching little children play at the park. Why would you be watching little children play at the park? EXACTLY! No fricken clue. I know for a fact there are still good animes running in Japan these days, but no body wants to pick that stuff up and bring it over. I dont think anybody wants to risk it. The economy's changed and the market aint what it used to be. Especially with the internet in full bloom.
Definitely, Hyouge Mono is an excellent example of such an anime which is great yet deviating from what's currently popular - thus none sub it, release it, or speak of it.
This is pretty good. I'd never heard of it.
I kinda feel what your saying. For example, If you look at the top animes of like 2007-2010 on Anime-source, it's wtfface with some of the rankings, (they put Angel Beats over Durarara!!...) That's is kinda true though with showing your friends something. I remember showing my friend the Cowboy Bebop Movie and ever since then he was hooked. But if I were to of showed him something like... Working! He would of laughed at me and said something like, "Get this noise outta my face". Tbh, I have kinda switch over to reading manwha/manga more than watching anime these days. Anime seems to just be "the same thing" these days. Story about highschool boy, 16, who meets random girl(s) and story goes randomly on from there. The formula is the same most of the time. What the studios need to do is really take the time to look at the manga out there to make into an anime. But if they do so, don't mess up the anime to it when there is manga to go off of, (Deadman Wonderland). I'm still surprise no one has picked up something like Bloody Monday, Ga-Rei or Code Breaker. Still I wish the manwha "The Breaker" would get an anime to it. Tbh, of all the manga/anime, I look forward to seeing the next chapters to The Breaker more than anything out right now. EDIT: Dam I went off topic as hell...
agree but except for Death Note
By chance was this spurred on by my comment on your Last Exile review? Just curious :) As far as this article, you bring up a good point. I honestly don't get why "retro" reviews are frowned upon. New people are getting into anime and manga every day. Why should they not be allowed to voice their opinion on something that is new to them?
Indeed it was - you've inspired me. When an idea comes to mind, better start writing immediately. I've actually been contemplating that idea for a while now as I recently finished a vintage series, GTO, which is one I never would have watched and missed out on an incredible experience had someone not recommended it to me. I feel there is some sort of invisible content barrier that needs to be broken down.
damn i missed 80's animes, they were quality! it was a combination of art and story telling plus other effects. nowadays animes are not art and story telling sucks! all you see women with big breast and buys with too much power etc it starting to become standard to have ridiculous breast sizes, and i am wonder is that suppose to be for young people? why brain wash the youth with such ideas of role models? animes these days became much lower! you wouldnt be able to tell if an anime is for kids or for adults since both have nude in them.
I could never get into anime. However, the anime that I could appreciate were indeed the older series. Of course the best anime of ever is the first couple seasons of Pokemon. Obviously... Of ever...
Pretty lacking article to be honest. The end theme seems to be older shows are better then newer shows and while that can be true it's not always a gospel. Some of the worst crap ever made are older shows such as MD Geist for example which puts anything today to shame in terms of how bad it was both in terms of story and animation. Then there is what the definition of old is.(which this article seems to imply is anything not in the current airing season of anime which is.....odd to say the very least) Mushishi isn't old in my opinion. It's a masterpiece to be sure but was only released a few years ago and thus can't really be called old. To drive this point home ask the average anime fan if they think the original TV version of FullMetal Alchemist is old. Most will probably say no. FMA was 2003 whereas Mushishi was 2005. Both titles don't really qualify as "old" titles.(nor does Aria while we are at it) When you someone says old I picture early 90's on back through the 70's and even earlier.(from titles mentioned in the article only Slam Dunk and Galaxy Express fit this definition) Even GTO would not qualify as old with this definition as it was released in 1999. The truth is that while there were plenty of great older shows they were not all gold. Think of it this way. Each anime season has 12+ shows airing and back in the day that was more like 20-30shows. So why is it that we don't have these MASSIVE list of awesome older titles? Because not everything was gold. Far from it in fact. There were some great older gems which are the shows we still talk about today and everything else was either forgettable or flat out garbage. Same as today. We get a few good shows each season and everything else is meh and can be passed on.
I think if someone tried to submit a review of FMA today they'd meet the same resistance the OP did with the Last Exile review.
You must have missed the point - the term "old" is just a vessel filled with whatever one may want to say is "old". If you picture that differently that's fine of course, however not everyone does, and not everyone was watching anime back when you were. The reasoning behind the article is you are more likely to find an archetype of sorts on a specific type of story or genre the further you go back - this is all speaking in general not in relation to any single season, series, or point in time. Of course there are great shows today, but as more shows are developed, themes become ever so recurring until they reach a point of being "Not As Likely" to be good.
@SynGamer My statement wasen't about Old as relates to posting news on a site like this. It was about if you ask someone if they think something is old how far back would they have to go before they thought something was old and my point was many would not consider something a few years ago old. The average causal anime fan has seen shows back to the late 90's without having to look into them. However when you get a bit farther back then that they need to be told by the old timers or other friends what was good and what wasen't because they don't know. That was my point not if something is old enough to be submitted or not that wasen't the point. @SeventhStyle See the thing here though isn't that the older anime created these themes and what not and then they were used endlessly. Those things have always existed in story telling. A good example is that the Magical Girl genre was inspired by the US TV shows Bewitched and I dream of Genie. And do you think anime created the Space Sci Fi Epic? No nor did they invent the Harem genre or romance or what have you. These themes have always been around and the only thing that matters is if they were done well or not. Same as today. If a show is done well people will like it regardless of it's genre or tropes and the same was true back then. Sure one can make the argument the shows back then were more original and while at face value that may be true solely because of there being less shows then it doesn't really matter to a new viewer. If for example I had never seen any harem show before and saw Love Hina I would think it was very original and great. Despite the fact that it was inspired by shows in the past that could be said are better that did almost the same thing with very similar character archetypes. If you haven't seen a ton of these shows you don't really care what is and is not a run down trope or archetype. This is why newer anime fans tend to like the newer shows instead of the older shows and older fans like the older shows.
@Reibooi There are Huge lists of "older" animes that were gold. I only have 2 "newer" animes on my list that are good and they both happen to be Mangas. Old to me is anything pre 2005. Because, come on, 10 years changes things. 25 years is going to change a LOT. And I can see from the way you wrote this that you're one of the ones that he's talking about in this article. You one of the people that loves this "Watch lil girls talk about nothing in a classroom" type of anime. The, "This anime looks so generic you'd confuse it for the next show if you didnt see it go off" liking type person. And man lemme tell ya...If you thought M.D. Geist had horrible story and animation I hate to see what you think is GOOD. I bet money that you don't like any of the works that came out of that studio if you don't like M.D. Geist. And now that you've said that I see what kind of person you are. Go eat some cheese and and watch some Katanagatari while continuously telling yourself that it isn't a horrible anime unlike M.D. Geist. Or maybe you're a X'amd kinda man. You'll get some good cheese eating out this while you sit around with you anime hipster buddies and gouge each others' eyes out with your poignant views.
I'm sorry but making rash conclusions on what I do and do not like when I never even listed shows I have seen is pretty stupid. Some of my all time favorites are things such as Patlabor 2, Vampire Princess Miyu(the older OVA not the meh TV series from the 90's) Akira, Eden of the East, GTO, Read or Die, GITS SAC, Gunslinger Girl(1st season) Baccano! and so on and so forth. Don't be a ass and try to talk down on me simply because I have a opinion. If yours is different that's awesome it's what opinions are. But if you don't have something that adds to the conversation kindly shut your mouth.
@Reibooi u seem to like what i like. as mentioned above, i love these animes: fist of the north star golgo 13 ninja scroll valley of the wind ghost in the shell 1 showdow skills detonator orgun i checked Patlabor 2 just now and i liked the style of it, i havent seen Eden of the East, GTO, Read or Die, GITS SAC, Gunslinger Girl(1st season) Baccano! yet, though i started watching Baccano. i suggest you to watch Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo it is a master piece new anime, paprika is a nice movie also.
@Reibooi Don't get offended when somebody slings some shit back in your face for you having slung some shit first. You didnt need to list what you liked when you come talking like older animes were just frequently trash. I frankly wouldnt have cared to have known what you liked after you come out of your mouth like that. Mealy mouthed bastard. I'll talk down to you EVERY time I see you from now on because every time I see you post, it's some stupid shit like this. If your opinion is always such, then it isn't need in any public space.
It's pretty easy to say it. The problem is support it. We all know, as obvious, that "new" themes in a anime are hard to create, that to people like us, who had been seeing anime for years, almost everything is a copy from something else. But, what's the point really? For me, anime has something that tv shows doesnt, neither movies, neither... nothing else. Anime can move me to tears, really good animes aren't focused on show us a superwonderfulgreatdeliciouswt hatthefuckidonteven stories, anime is all about character developing. Actual anime is bad? I dont think so. Madoka Magika, Hanasaku Iroha and Ano hana... in this season, are fine examples of a good anime. Last year, there was a masterpiece called Cross Game. In 2009, Dennou Coil. Obviously, this is MY opinion, but I'm far from bored or sad for the new anime. I'm actually enjoying them pretty much; as obvious, "old" animes have a piece in my heart, but I dont miss'em at all. I'm happy living the anime of the present.
I Completely agree with you. I can find new anime that I like almost as much as I love the old anime. I like Naruto (the manga) as much as I like old Dragon Ball and I like K-On as much as I like Ranma 1/2 (my fav anime). I personally think this is not an "animation" matter but an "Otaku" thing. I have seen lots of so-called "Otakus" just rambling about new anime just to look cool and to show themselves as the all-knowing, if-i-don't-like-it-you-sho uldn't-like-it-either kind of person. People tend to like vintage stuff just to look cool and not for a genuine appreciation, of course, this is not in general, but, this behavior is very popular now amongs Otakus
Really good animes are n't focused on show us a super wonderful anime. http://www.scribd.com/Hinna...
I don't know if it's because the movies I watched when I was younger played such a major part in my youth or that quality has dropped off, but I agree; old anime was great.
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