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Anime Say! Episode 2 - The Problem With Shonen

In this weeks video cast of Anime Say! Capsule Computers' anime expert Luke Halliday, discusses the problem with the Shonen genre as a whole. (Anime, Capsule Computers, Culture, Manga)

futurefrog  +   164d ago
This was an awesome ep this week.
LinkageAX  +   164d ago
Indeed.
gaffyh  +   164d ago
Would you really care if you actually were dead? I think you'd have more important things to worry about, if you were DEAD!

I agree about the manga authors though, but all they need is a fail-safe where they right down the ending, which is revealed to the publishers/studio if the author dies.

I actually like mega-shounens, because in most animes you get to know the characters, and then the show finishes without a real conclusion. They always want to leave the ending open just in case they make a new series.

Thing is, even though they're not finishing, the canon in all of them is still really good, except Bleach at the moment. That's one they could have EASILY finished. With Naruto and One Piece you can tell they have actually thought about future arcs and have set them up properly, with Bleach, they totally DID NOT.
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ShoryukenII  +   163d ago
One Piece is the best. It has gone on longer than both Bleach and Naruto and has the least amount of fillers. The fillers are less intrusive and usually expand on the story's background (like One Piece: Strong World). I like Naruto and the last non-filler episodes of Bleach were some of the best I have seen in any anime (Yamamoto vs Aizen was amazing), they just don't plan things out well. It's sad that I haven't watched Bleach in nearly a year and it is still in fillers...
gaffyh  +   163d ago
It's actually not in fillers any more, it is canon now. But most of the manga readers have said that the current canon arc felt like filler in the manga.
JS_CC  +   164d ago
Good job.
masterabbott  +   164d ago
lol brutally murdered !!
Cybermario  +   164d ago
thanks, enjoyed it.
futurefrog  +   164d ago
Do you agree about the state of shonen series?
Cybermario  +   164d ago
i do, see i love shows like Saint Seiya and Dragonball Z, specially DBZ was long, really long but had an ending.

Naruto and Bleach (one piece too) seems they will never end, when ichigo beat aizen "ok show may end after this: and "woah...?!" is absurd.
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rezzah  +   164d ago
^

These shows are not long compared to others out there. At least they have a story of strong characters.

Naruto will end when he becomes Hokage, and that will likely happen after the war.

Bleach is all about Ichigo. Aizen was only the first obstacle, there is still more to bleach than just Aizen. each character will be deeply explored as we have already seen with other characters.

Fillers in Bleach are pointless, but in Naruto they explore days of character's past between main parts of the story. Bleach explores character's past during the telling of the main story. So that leaves fillers of randomness for bleach.
ShoryukenII  +   163d ago
I think they hinted at something about the Soul King in earlier episodes and in one of the first few episodes,a hollow came from hell. So there are other places to go but I know what you mean by how it could have ended.
LinkageAX  +   164d ago
Same here.
masterabbott  +   164d ago
I agree its worse than days of our lives, that shit never ends.
rabidpancakeburglar  +   164d ago
Commenting on your reply to future frog ^^

I think that naruto has an end in sight as there seems to be no way that they can continue it beyond the war.

I agree about Bleach that really should have ended after Aizen (although it would have been a pretty weak ending) but it looks like they have no plans to end it any time soon.

I would say that one piece needs to end as it has been almost 650 chapters but at the same time I really don't want it ending any time soon as it has me completely captivated and waiting to see what happens next.

I think that the perfect length for an manga/anime is about 250 to 350 chapters/episodes as that leaves plenty of room for a satisfying story and means I'll be less likely to crave more as I do with some smaller ones that I've read and watched.
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badboy99  +   164d ago
Man bleach why isnt it ended yet it sucks!

naruto is probably gonna end after shinobi war but still went for way too long

one piece gone heaps long too

I miss the days when shonen actually ended
jerethdagryphon  +   164d ago
the plan is for bleach to end after the next 3 main arcs , the fullbringeres is a prelude to it
koga88  +   164d ago
Pretty good episode, though the background music got a little too loud compared to your voice at the last couple of minutes. Besides that I would have to agree that there eventually needs to be a stopping point. A good series knows when to wrap itself up before becoming a mess.
JS_CC  +   164d ago
I gotta agree with you koga88.
badboy99  +   164d ago
there was no sound problem he sounded fine to me o.O'
koga88  +   164d ago
For the most part it sounded fine, only the last two minutes of the video seemed to have the background music louder than his own voice. Could have just been me.
trendor  +   164d ago
like badboy i did not see any problem with the sound quality. i do agree with you about good series knowing to wrap it up though
LinkageAX  +   164d ago
Well spoken video, absolutely loved it. And that guy is incredibly hawt :3
futurefrog  +   164d ago
He is isn't he ;)
JS_CC  +   164d ago
Good episode. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

I can't believe they would want to continue certain series and not have a conclusion. There has to be one someday.
trendor  +   164d ago
your not wrong JSCC. I wish naruto would hurry up and finish!!
noxeven  +   164d ago
I think naruto is defiantly gonna end so,
bleach after he defeated aizen i just said that was the end and the rest is creator just trying to milk it at this point
and one piece i feel as though they they forgot what they wanted to do and its never gonna end
badboy99  +   164d ago
i know right
trendor  +   164d ago
bleach just sucks now, i gave it up long ago.
masterabbott  +   164d ago
Love Anime Say, Luke keep up the great work cant wait for ep 3 !!
jetlian  +   164d ago
I disagree
Anime doesn't last a lifetime like american comics!! Batman is like 80+ years worth. Same with superman or any DC/MARVEL comics
silvacrest  +   164d ago
true, the only reason people dont notice this is because the american comics dont follow a continuing storyline every week for years and years
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jetlian  +   163d ago
And thats why for me american based comics is hard to get into. I like xmen, batman and such but when it comes to the comics which of the 100s of creators do you start with.

I like having 1 person doing the storytelling
discordman  +   164d ago
It's a bit too hard to tell when an anime will end as demand usually creeps back up, even when a series has been given a proper ending. (DBZ)
MoreRPG  +   164d ago
i don't think Naruto is going to end after the shinobi war there will most likely be a timeskip after the end of the war
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CraigUK  +   164d ago
lame
silvacrest  +   164d ago
i dont agree really, if the anime is still pumping out interesting episodes/chapters why stop it? naruto needs to get to the ninja war....badly, as for bleach, i dont no any more...well i guess it should have ended when he couldn't see rukia any more

one piece just continues to be awesome

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