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Mangaka Suggests Kill la Kill May Be Plagiarized

The recent anime Kill la Kill by Studio Trigger has won popularity for its violent interpretation of school politics and clothes-based combat system. But recent murmurs among the Japanese online fan community suggest that its concept may not be so unique after all.

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admiralvic1021d ago

I am really getting sick of people on the internet using the wrong words and trying to make things sound worse than they actually are. If you're writing for Animenewsnetwork, then you should know what the term "derivative" is or have the resources to find this term.

"de·riv·a· ;tive (d-rv-tv)
1. Copied or adapted from others: a highly derivative prose style.
2. based on or making use of other sources; not original or primary
3. copied from others"

1. the verbatim copying or imitation of the language, ideas, or thoughts of another author and representing them as one’s own original work."

When your examples are a school the size of a town, authoritarian student council, hot headed transfer student, both characters are looking into murder and have a red memento, it feels like a reach. A lot of anime / manga have huge schools, which doesn't mean anything, which go for councils too (games like Disgaea 3 also follow suit). If you're going to have a battle series, then you're going to need a character that gets in a lot of fights, so it makes sense they would be hot headed. It would take too much time / effort / planning to really justify how a calm and collective person gets in all these arguments / fights, when they just want to study. Same goes for transferring in. That is a simple and easy "go to" reason to justify them being in this situation. Another would be them just enrolling naturally, though it isn't as tense. The character also needs motivation, which is very commonly linked to murder, mystery (XYZ is missing and I want answers), love or another emotion strong enough to give the character motivation. It also isn't uncommon for these characters to have a link to their past (memento), which might be really unusual (switchblade vs scarf), but also needs to be easy to visualize and remember. I can remember a red switchblade long before I remember his trusty Terra cotta (it's a shade of red) Scarf. The only real piece of evidence is "pig freedoms", though the term pig has a long history of being associated with this sort of thing (like communist pigs).

You could spend a lot of time looking into Japanese "school" battle manga / anime / games and find a number of these elements in a lot of these stories. I am sure you could find a lot of different elements across these stories too. With hundreds (thousands?) of anime / manga series out there, I am sure you could link this and almost, if not every, series after a certain point to something in the past. Thats just a matter of statistics and a finite number of unique ideas / situations people can come up with and how vague people want to get (like if that manga owns big schools, another manga owns small schools, another manga owns normal schools, then that pretty much covers every base this series can take place if you want to use a school setting)

KingArthur13th1021d ago

Anime News Network only quoted what Ooshima stated. I don't think the writer himself was stating that KLK was plagiarized, he was only reporting what Ooshima said. Anyway I do agree with you; KLK shares similarities with Gakuen Noise but it definitely isn't plagiarism. Every anime shares something in common with at least one other anime, manga or some other story.

admiralvic1021d ago

"Anime News Network only quoted what Ooshima stated. I don't think the writer himself was stating that KLK was plagiarized, he was only reporting what Ooshima said."

Since the original source is in Japanese, it really comes down to how you want to translate what was being said. It isn't rare for translations to be changed from what was literally said to something that makes more sense to use, since Japan doesn't have anywhere near as many words meaning the same thing as English (I believe English is the most complex in that regard). In this case, derivative is a synonym (word or phrase meaning roughly the same thing) of plagiarism and could be substituted in translation if the writer wanted to.

Also going through the Ooshima blog post, I can't find the term mentioned anywhere, outside of comments. Maybe they mentioned by then in the comments, but then I would just jump back to my first point (also the writer on ANN did not use the term in reference to Ooshima). The other writer, who the writer on ANN mentioned used the term plagiarized, said it was not, so that means Ooshima had to be the one who said it and... well, do I really need to debate it anymore?